Ocelot --
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Um OK consider the attitude lost.
Good! Thank You.
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Nothing personal I just don't like weak conspiracy theories.
Being a person, I took it personally (confirmed by rereading). Is this your usual type of reaction and response to "ideas" you do not like? I don't like conspiracy theories either and especially "weak" ones. I'd much rather be doing something else. It has become an important (at least for me) quest for truth, however. I do like truth. Sometimes truth and some conspiracy theories do go together. Sometimes they do not. It's really a continuum or a range from the purely psychotic to the true and all points in between. Determining which is which and what is what is most often the really tough part.
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Don't worry about the delay in replying I can only dip into the forum occasioanally myself.
Not "worried" at all! I am "currently" operating under some daily posting constraints.
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Homework's up to date. I'm back. Let's talk.
Hmmmm. That was quick, too quick. I'm skeptical. Sorry.
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I believe we left it with you about to explain what you believe about these "elite forces" and why you believe it.
Who is this mysterious "we" you are referring to? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

We'll see where this goes though.
"What" I believe, in this area, is very dynamic and in continual flux. By the time I finished explaining the "what", the written explanation would most probably be obsolete. And I really would not like to type that much anyway. Nor am I inclined to do so.
"Why" is a different matter altogether. Because it is a logical and realistic conclusion, derived from where the "good" evidence leads.<IMHO> (Sorry if <IMHO> bothers you. I don't see it as MY problem.)
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Cheers gotta love the Bill - he had a certain way of looking at things.
Bill and I share very similar views in several areas. I believe I was there first. But, hey, who's keeping score?

He MAY have "borrowed" some of his material from me. If you don't mind, what are your thoughts on the "content" of the provided Hick's quotes and MP3? Was he JUST and only being funny, IYHO?
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Have you read "Love all the people" Not to proud to admit there were tears in my eyes by the time I put the book down.
No, I haven't read it. Some books impact me that way too. I'll look into it. Thanks! I'm relatively new to Bill. I first saw him on his HBO (I think) special rerun. This caused me to research him, on the web. WOW! I'm a fan.
Would you do me a favor, please? Would you take the Politopia Quiz, and post your results (numeric scores on each axis and the verbal interpretation) on that thread? It would give me a better handle and understanding of who I am dealing with here. Thanks! I appreciate it.
http://myreality.chu...p?showtopic=410
I would also be interested in your thoughts and opinions of my signature quotes. It provides you with a handle on who you are dealing with.<IMHO> We're shortcutting the "getting to know you" phase here.
Thanks!
HAGO!
CYL